I have found that the United Methodists, Lutherans (ELCA), and Presbyterians are all pretty much in the same frame of thought these days. A bit more liberal for the most part. Pretty hard telling the differances between them IMO.
drew sagan
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I'm converting again.
by reneeisorym in2 years ago i left jws.
i went to a baptist church because it was what my husband was.
i knew i wanted to go to church but which one i really didn't know yet.. two years later, i think i have made up my mind: presbyterian.. anyone have anything they want to share?
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Does any real learning take place at the Kingdom Hall?
by truthseeker inprearranged comments, scripted answers, word-for-word answers from the paragraph,.
no outside material allowed, short comments.... .
does anyone really learn anything at the hall?
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drew sagan
The best word I can think to describe the learning done at the Kingdom Hall is limited.
While there are things that are true being taught at the Kingdom Hall the gains made in knowledge and understanding are resrticted do the the biased nature of the teaching. Factor in all of the misinformation and illogicial arguments used and you come out with a loss.
Do not also forget that most of the material covered at the Kingdom Hall is recirculated and reused. How many times can you 'learn' the same doctrine of paradise?
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Who on this Board would love to get rid of Organized Religion?
by restrangled inimho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
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drew sagan
Here here! Let's give religious freaks the same medicine they dished out to scientists over the centuries. Hangings, tied to a stake and burned with a Bible around their neck, cut off from society, shunned, persecuted... Let's see how they like it.
To ban religion is absurd. Who decides what to get rid of and what stays. What limits are there? Let people believe as they please. Religion isn't the only thing used by "fanatics" to justify bad behavior.
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What's your favourite TV theme song ...
by Frequent_Fader_Miles inat the time i was really too young to watch (or understand) the show, but i liked the theme song from dallas.. what's your favourite?.
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drew sagan
MacGyver, there is no other!
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Mormon answer for Tula
by FormerMormon infirst let me apologize.
as president of the women's relief society, she began telling women that they would be approached by church leadership to become plural wives.
joseph's brother samuel (also one of the 12 apostles) was one of them.
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drew sagan
Shawn10538 please take back your statements (or at least edit them). You have not taken the time to read anything FormerMormon has written.
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Who is classed as a "Non-Believer"?
by freedomfighter inthis issue came up back in 1994 when i met my wife to be.
i was baptised and she had been brought up as a witness and had baptised witness parents.
problem was she was unbaptised.
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drew sagan
It is loose terminology that will be used by the group simply meet its needs. No hard and fast rules apply.
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Gail Bethea-Jackson -- doctor, as claimed by Watchtower?
by Fatfreek ingail bethea-jackson -- doctor, as claimed by watchtower?
re: my thread, letter to nbc about watchtower's rebuttal .
in the above thread, there is some reason to believe (thanks to vm44) that bethea-jackson is not, in fact, the doctor as claimed on the official watchtower site which airs her video.
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drew sagan
How hard can it be to get some hard data on this womans credentials? It makes her seem bogus but we need some concrete data...
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Why aren't all of the Annointed at Bethel?
by nomoreguilt inthis really bothers me.
i've been reading up latelty alot about the gb and it's relationship to or lack there -in of the annointed.
jesus' spirit begotten followers, here on earth, the citizens of the new jerusalem, make up the faithful and discreet slave, correct?
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drew sagan
Because in all reality the "Faithful Slave" is a myth and means little to the operational value of the Watchtower.
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YMCA membership
by erandir inok, i know this has been talked about before, but now's a good time to bring this up again.
my wife (active witness) and i (inactive, haven't attended in over a year) just got memberships to the ymca today.
it's the only fitness place in town with a swimming pool.
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drew sagan
If the local JW BOE objects, you can always fall back on the defense that you and your wife are MAJOR fans of The Village People. Run out now and get all their albums. You should be the cop and your wife can be the indian.
lol! we should have tried that one...
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YMCA membership
by erandir inok, i know this has been talked about before, but now's a good time to bring this up again.
my wife (active witness) and i (inactive, haven't attended in over a year) just got memberships to the ymca today.
it's the only fitness place in town with a swimming pool.
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drew sagan
As the links HappyDad pointed out, me and my wife really took a hit for joining.
An important point to remember about our case. Joining the YMCA was a tool they wanted to use in order to blackmail us in getting to come back to the meetings. They knew I was a possible "apostate" and thought my wife may have been as well. It was a great excuse for them to force us into making a decision.
So it's not really about joining the YMCA per se. I think that we would have been treated much better had we still been going to meetings. These Elders saw an opportunity to put on trial two people that quit going to meetings and took it.